Amazon Payments: Help with Meeting Minimum Spends.

I love rewards cards, and I love their sign-up bonuses. Who doesn’t? Believe it or not, a lot of people don’t partake in rewards credit cards. But that’s another post…..

Yeah, I love getting rewards cards and their sign-up bonuses, because that’s how I can travel often and in style. Thank you, credit card gods. But with a lot of these cards, there are minimum spend requirements that need to be met. In the past, there where often lower minimum spends or none at all, but NOW there is most likely going to be a minimum spend tied to every rewards card. Boo, but it’s reality. Reality is a B sometimes.

I believe we are going to see even more minimum spends and/or second tier bonuses in the future. For example, the Ink Bold gives you 25,000 Ultimate Rewards points on first spend, which is balling, but to get the second tier bonus, you need to spend $10,000 in 3 months.

Minimum spends are here to stay and app-parties are being thrown, so it’s necessary to get creative to meet minimum spend requirements.

[FYI: I'm not a financial advisor. You must proceed at your own risk with Amazon Payments.]

Let me introduce you to my friend, “Amazon Payments”.

Amazon payments is awesome, p-e-r-i-o-d.

Tip: Don’t use American Express issued cards like the PRG or Platinum. This will send a red flag to Amex and no body wants that. The Starwood Preferred Guest card seems to work though.

You can help meet your minimum spends by sending credit card payments through your Amazon Payment account. You can send someone an Amazon payment for “no fee”, up to $1,000 a month. Anything over $1,000 will have a 3% fee.

So, I can send my wife an Amazon payment of $1,000 every month for FREE (and vice versa). That’s $2,000 in monthly household spend ammunition! I just link up my credit card to my Amazon Paymet account and send a “goods or service payment” to her Amazon Payment account. For us, my payment to my wife will go to our bank account. After it’s deposited, I will use the money to pay off my $1,000 credit card balance.

If you are sending an Amazon Payment to someone other than a spouse or partner, make sure you know them well and trust them to cut you a check or send you an Amazon Payment back.

 

The Process

 

1. Sign into Amazon Payments

If you already have an Amazon account, you can use the same login info. You will just need to add your credit card and bank account info into your Amazon Payments account.

Amazon Payments Sign in or Create Account

 

Sign in or Create

 

 

2. Enter Personal Details

  • Name and Address
  • DOB or social security number
  • Security Question

 

3. Activate “Send Money Online”

Click the activate button. Easy.

 

Activate

 

4. Verify Email, Credit Card, and Bank Account

This is another eazzzy step. Click on the verify email button and you will be directed through the steps. Then add your credit card and bank account info. You will be walked through the steps. Depending on your bank, you may have to send 2 small deposits to verify your bank info. I did not with Wells Fargo.

 

Verify your Email, CC, and Bank

 

5. Send $$$

Pay attention! It’s important that you click the “goods and services” option. If you select the “cash advance” option, you could be charged a very expensive cash advance fee on your credit card. Efff that.

Choosing the “goods and services” tab will most likely not result in a charge from your credit card company. But always start off with a small amount to test the waters, because you just never know.

I haven’t been charged a fee yet, but your credit card could be different. So, start small.

 

Send Money

 

6. Select Your Credit Card

Select your credit card that has the minimum spend you are trying to meet. Add your new one in if you haven’t used it yet.

 

Select Your Credit Card

 

7. Confirm Your Payment

Always double check that you have “goods and services” clicked. Then confirm.

 

Confirm and Double Check

 

Getting the Money Back

After the recipient deposits the money you’ve sent them, they can write you a check or give you cash. A riskier option is to transfer the money back to you from their Amazon Payment account and credit card. There is a risk Amazon will flag your account. I usually wait 15 days before I have my wife send me a payment from a different credit card to my Amazon Payment account, which has a different bank account attached.

That’s a Wrap

Now you have an easy way to meet a $1,000 minimum spend. Some important points:

  • You can only do $1,000 a month per account before you are charged 3%
  • Don’t create multiple accounts (you will get busted)
  • Don’t be greedy in general with this technique
  • Click Goods and Services

Amazon Payments is a trusted technique used by many to help meet their minimum spends. It’s soooo easy- too easy, really. I have used Amazon Payments many times and have never been charged a fee.

Utilizing Amazon Payments is going to become even more vital with minimum spends increasing. I expect the new rewards card offers to all have minimum spends and second tier bonuses tied to them. So familiarize yourself with Amazon Payments and shoot me an email if you have any questions.

p.s. Play it cool. If you do more than 200 transactions or $20,000 in a calendar year- Amazon will be required to let the IRS know. Nobody wants that. 

— Noob Master

  • Rich

    Great idea unless a hacker compromises ANY of your accounts!

    • http://www.NoobTraveler.com/ Noob Traveler

      Yes, that would suck. No doubt! Did that happen to you?

  • emily

    do you have any experience with doing payments of over 1,000 and paying the fee? i’ve been considering it, but i’m worried the bank will investigate and potentially not give points if i have a payment of $20,000..

    • http://www.NoobTraveler.com/ Noob Traveler

      Hi Emily- I would only use Amazon Payments to help meet minimum spends on credit cards. If you run over 200 transactions or $20,000 in a year the IRS will be notified by Amazon. Doing large amounts could also kill the deal by drawing too much attention.

      • emily

        i was thinking of doing it just once, to meet the spend required for the extra 50k on the ba card. it would cost $570 for 75k, and i get 2¢+ value from avios because i fly yyz-ord regularly.

        obviously no one wants the deal dead or the irs involved though…i’ll have to give it a good think..

  • Matt

    I’ve been doing this for a while, and I actually just send the money to myself. I just have 2 Amazon payment accounts, one is attached to my credit card, and the other is attached to my bank (for withdrawals). You don’t technically need to send it to another person if you don’t have a spouse, or trustworthy friend. I’ve done it for a while with no issues, simply sending money between my 2 accounts.

    • Devon Pack

      Do you use the same address for both? I will get my Chase Ink Card this week & use Chase Bank for all my checking needs. I’m as worried about them figuring out what I’m doing as Amazon. Or should I setup a separate checking with a new bank just so Chase doesn’t see this activity? THanks!

      • http://www.NoobTraveler.com/ Noob Traveler

        Hi Devan, Yes, I use the same address for my wife and me. But, it would probably be better if they were different. We do have different checking accounts tied to our different AP accounts.

  • Sgzorak811

    Do you also get the miles for this? For example, if you normally get 1 mile per dollar spent on your credit card, would you get 1000 miles?

    • http://www.NoobTraveler.com/ Noob Traveler

      Yes, you do. :)

  • Cindy W

    I love it. Great tool if I am in a pinch to meet a spend. Thanks for all the info you share with us – your blog is an awesome resource.

  • Tina

    amazon disabled our amazon payment accounts. none of the payment we send are going through and we received those emails from amazon payment ( oh well it sux!

    • http://www.NoobTraveler.com/ Noob Traveler

      Interesting. That’s a bummer! Thanks for the data point.

  • Traveler

    Thanks, I just opened account(s) to help my wife meets some spends from an app party we just did a few day ago. Is the $1000 limit per calender month? will it reset automatically on the first of every month?

    • http://www.NoobTraveler.com/ Noob Traveler

      Congrats on your app party! It’s per “calendar” month. I hope this helps and good luck meeting those spends!

      • Traveler

        In your experience do withdraws from you Amazon account to a checking account take the 5-7 business days to complete as stated? Did a small $10 test, the money from my wife CC showed up in my account and I initiated the withdraw. I would like to switch CC’s (from a hilton amex to a citi hilton visa) and do the other $990 before the end of the month.Just don’t want to have any problems. Thanks!!

        “Bank transfers usually take 5-7 business days to complete (not including weekends or holidays). Check your bank account after 7 business days have passed to verify that the funds have been received by your bank.”

        • http://www.NoobTraveler.com/ Noob Traveler

          Hi Traveler- In my experience deposits have usually take 3-5 days. You should be good to go by the end of the month. I hope this helps and don’t hesitate to reach out if you have anymore questions.

          • Traveler

            Thanks, a pending deposit showed up in my checking account this morning. (2 days) Also thank you again for the detailed advice. I have been pondering AP for a long time. If it lasts it will really help meet spends. I think the trend on CC sign up bonus is higher and higher minimum spends.

            • http://www.NoobTraveler.com/ Noob Traveler

              My pleasure! One thing is certain..minimum spends are here to stay. Hopefully they don’t go higher. I’m wishing anyway.

              • Traveler

                I have recently received a spend offer from Choice Privileges VISA cc for 16k. Do you know if amazon payments can be used to meet this spend. I vaguely recall something about Barclay’s not treating AP as spend but I am not sure. Do you have any idea? Thank

              • http://www.NoobTraveler.com/ Noob Traveler

                Sorry, I don’t have any personal experience with Barclays and AP. I wouldn’t do more than $1,000 a month though.

  • R Z

    Oh my gosh – this is hilarious!…and genius.

  • Newbie Point Guy

    The way I read the AP site, you have to declare your account as a business to accept payments, is that correct and does is cost anything? I have a few friends lined up to help me in this and want to know if there are any fees whatsoever for any of us if we stay under the $1,000 limit?

    • http://www.NoobTraveler.com/ Noob Traveler

      No, there are no fees as long as you stay under the $1,000 limit.

  • George

    Amazon Payments is great…thanks for the details.

  • Robert

    Is it $1000 from my account/cc (ONLY) or a payment for one person???

    • http://www.NoobTraveler.com/ Noob Traveler

      You can only send $1,000 a calendar month without a fee.

  • Tina Thompson

    Can hubby and I use same credit card to send money to each other? Also, won’t AP flag us since we live at the same address?

  • Tina Thompson

    How about having money sent to different but joint bank accounts?

  • Tim

    why do you say not to use American Express cards like PRG or Platinum? I ha ve the Amex buisness Gold Rewards card, can send payments through Amizon Payments with this card?

    • http://www.NoobTraveler.com/ Noob Traveler

      I would definitely stay away from using your Business Gold card on Amazon Payments. The Business Gold card seems to be the one card that is prone to Amex freezes.

      • Tim

        hello, shit lol, well with the ten thousand in four month requirement I was really counting on the Amazon payments to help me meet that. Do you have any sugjestions to help me meet that now? Please Help? thanks timothy dennis

  • http://twitter.com/CarolynBarr Carolyn Barr

    I was just setting up my husband and I’s Amazon payments accounts and I was explaining it to him. His first comment, “Are you gonna go to jail?”

    Ah, love.

    By the way, his account was all verified instantly buy mine is still pending verification. Know if that typically can take longer?

    • http://www.NoobTraveler.com/ Noob Traveler

      Lol. Classic response! Sometimes there is a lag on the verification, but it should have gone through by now?

      • http://twitter.com/CarolynBarr Carolyn Barr

        Ah ha, it did go through. I’m just impatient, and a leetle paranoid. Thanks!

        • http://www.NoobTraveler.com/ Noob Traveler

          Awesome. My pleasure!

  • Taveller

    So, If myself and my husband do $1000/per month, which is $24000/household will it raise a red flag with IRS too?

    • http://www.NoobTraveler.com/ Noob Traveler

      No, it’s $20,000 per individual or 200 transactions. You’re in the clear!

  • bubba

    I am looking at opening a Sapphire card and came across this wording in the offer details: “Chase groups similar merchant codes into categories for purposes of making
    rewards offers to you. Chase makes every effort to include all relevant merchant
    codes in its listed categories. However, even though a merchant or the items
    that it sells may appear to fit within a listed category, the merchant may not
    have a merchant code that falls within that category. Therefore, purchases with
    that merchant will not qualify for the stated rewards offer on category
    purchasesand see that points rewarded on based on assigned merchant codes based on product and services they sell” I plan on only using Amazon Payments in the first three months to spend the $3Kt o get the 40K bonus points. My question: does AP fall within a category that will ensure I receive bonus points with the Chase Sapphire Card? thx bubba

    • http://www.NoobTraveler.com/ Noob Traveler

      Amazon Payments should definitely count towards your minimum spending requirement. I hope this helps and you picked a great card!
      Geoff Whitmore

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